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5.2.2005 at 08:57 #172
AAKK
ParticipantAvaan tahän mahdollisuuden keskustella tosta etusivun Raymer jutusta jos jollakin sattuisi olemaan kommentteja
5.2.2005 at 10:34 #39164Hande
Participant@AAKK wrote:
Avaan tahän mahdollisuuden keskustella tosta etusivun Raymer jutusta jos jollakin sattuisi olemaan kommentteja
Onkohan meikäläisellä jossain vikaa kun valittaa “requested article not found”?
5.2.2005 at 11:33 #39165AAKK
ParticipantAnteeksi kovin. Tuo juttu oli siis siirtynyt tilaajapohjaiseksi. Juttu meni näin.
You’re playing no-limit hold ’em, and you’re going to raise. How much?
Because raises are all about sending messages, gaining information and
positioning to win.Take last year’s final table of the main event in the World Series of Poker.
Mike McClain woke up with pocket aces and raised under the gun for $150,000,
about 20 percent of his relatively short stack.“Because he’s getting relatively short-stacked, he could just have a decent
hand,” said Greg Raymer, owner of those goofy, green amusement-park eyeball
glasses that stared down everybody. “He could have a medium ace, a small
pair, and he wants to steal the blinds.”Action got around to Raymer, the chip leader with $8 million-plus. He drew
pocket 10s.“I decide he doesn’t have to have a monster hand,” said Raymer, known as
“Fossilman” for using fossils as card protectors at the table. “I decide
I’m not going to fold this hand, and I won’t just call because if any of the
four overcards hits, I won’t have a clue if he has one or not.”Raymer looked at McClain’s stack of about $800,000 but raised only $500,000,
and here’s why:“Mike knows if I make it half his stack, he’s committing his hand,” said
Raymer, a Connecticut patent attorney. “Calling even half his stack is the
same as calling all of his stack.”But there’s another reason.
“If he raises and I re-raise, and someone else makes the third raise, I’m
going to have to throw away pocket 10s,” Raymer said. “I’m making it clear
to Mike that I’m committing him if he wants to play, but I’m giving myself
room if someone else comes in.”Everyone else folded. The flop brought a 10, giving Raymer a set. No ace on
the turn or river for McClain. His World Series of Poker was over. “He
didn’t get lucky on me after I got lucky on him,” Raymer said.Yeah, every tournament winner gets lucky, big-time, but still, pick your
raise carefully.“I still had four guys behind me who still hadn’t looked at their hand
yet,” Raymer said, “and if one of them wakes up with jacks or better, they
might throw away two jacks, but they’re probably going to play, so why would
I want to commit $800,000 in chips if I can commit $500,000 and get the same
result against Mike?”The guy knows what he’s talking about. The guy won the main event, the $5
million and the gold bracelet.5.2.2005 at 14:27 #39168Aki
ParticipantSinänsä Raymerin selostus kymppiparinsa pelaamisesta on turnausstrategisesti aivan oikein ja kertoo, että kaveri on pitkän linjan ammattilainen. Ja kuten medioissa yleensä (ja jenkkimedioissa erityisesti)sivuutetaan onnettoman ässäparilla häviäjän kohtalo kokonaan, joka myös pelasi strategisesti aivan oikein.
Turnaustaktisesti peli tietysti meni käsille, koska juuri nyt sattui kaverilla olemaan naulat ja merkit laitetiin keskelle ennen floppia tilanteessa, jossa Mustanaamion hevonen (Hero) oli 20 : 80 perässä.
En siis kritisoi Raymerin peliä, vaan asiantuntematonta uutisointia. Olisin luultavasti pelannut Raymerin käden samalla tavalla.7.2.2005 at 21:14 #39191valliinvetelija
MemberEn tiedä mitä tolla jutulla oli oikein tarkoitettu. Tollaisessa turnauksessa jos Raymerillä olisi ollut tasa stackki tän reissaajan kanssa niin se olisi ollut selvä kippi. Tuo uutisointi oli ehkä hiukkasen hanurista niinkuin Aki sanoikin.
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