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  • #1125
    Tumppi
    Member

    Onko kellään tietoa onko Party Pokerille mahdollista saada mitenkään rake backia. Ajattelin tehdä talletuksen Partylle jotta pääsisi osallistumaan Ferrari freerolliin ja mahdollisesti myös 20000$ freerolleihin.

    #45143
    Jusbe
    Participant

    Jotkut affiliatet taitavat tarjota rakebackia ‘pöydän alta’, ja lisäksi Party tarjoaa itse jonkin näköistä rakebackia tuottaville pelaajille.

    #45144
    petteri
    Participant

    Laita viesti http://www.rakerebatereview.com/ forumillle “Request offers from afficiates” ja valitse viestien perusteella afficiate, joka on http://www.rakerebatereview.com/ listalla.

    HUOM. “Villejä” Afficiateja ei kannata käyttää.

    #45145
    Harry442111
    Participant

    @jusander wrote:

    Jotkut affiliatet taitavat tarjota rakebackia ‘pöydän alta’, ja lisäksi Party tarjoaa itse jonkin näköistä rakebackia tuottaville pelaajille.

    Ei ne kovin isoja rakebackkejä voi olla kun party maksaa affilaeitellekkin
    sen verran nihkeesti muihin verrattuna. 8)

    #45146
    Hande
    Participant

    @petteri wrote:

    HUOM. “Villejä” Afficiateja ei kannata käyttää.

    Hyvin on 2+2:sen aivopesu mennyt läpi :)? Sinänsähän affiliaten suuruus ei takaa mitään, sillä suurikin affiliate voi halutessaan vain pistää “hanat kiinni”, eikä siinä pelaajilla ole oikeastaan minkäänlaisia mahdollisuuksia vaikuttaa asiaan, periaatteessa siis “villi” affiliate voi olla aivan yhtä luotettava ja joissain tapauksissa luotettavampikin kuin joku tunnetumpi taho.

    Partyn rakeback on varsin mielenkiintoinen debatti, ja esim. tällä hetkellä Party on jäädyttänyt hyvin (uuden) affiliaten tilit koska pelkäsi näiden olevan lähes pelkästään rakeback-affiliateja, kuitenkin esim. yksittäiset trackerit on Partylla ainakin toistaiseksi jälleen päällä, joten rakebackin tarjoaminen on kuin onkin teknisesti mahdollista, mutta kuten sanottu, hyvin hyvin paljon pöydän alta.

    #45147
    Harry442111
    Participant

    Niin voi olla aika vaikee löytää affilaetea joka tarjoaa rakebackkiä koska suurpelurit saa sen ite partyltä ja pienemmissä rahoissa liikuttaessa hyöty riskiin että koko affilate sopimus puretaan nähden on pieni ja jos sopimuksia on enemmän kiinnijäänti todennäköisempää. 8)

    #45149
    h
    Participant

    Tervehdys!

    Ensimmäinen viesti ja heti liuta kysymyksiä.

    Miten tämä Partyn oma rakeback käytännössä toimii?
    Millä prosenttialueella liikutaan ja onko jollakin tavoin porrasteinen?
    Edellytetäänkö flopin katsomista tai panostamista mukaan luettaviin käsiin?
    Vastaako SNG turnauksien talon osuus tässä mielessä rakea?
    Kannattaako asiaa tiedustella ennen tilin luontia vai onko ensin osoitettava pelaavansa jonkun tietyn verran (ja kuinka paljon) viikossa/kuukaudessa?
    Yhteydenotto supportiin vai johonkin muuhun osastoon?

    -h

    #45503
    ascii
    Participant

    Tämmöstä viestiä tuli raketherakelta pari päivää sitten (pikkasen pätkäisty). Eli lyhennettynä: eipä ole tiedossa rakebackeja ainakaan luotettavilta suurilta tarjoajilta.

    Background:
    Just prior to the split from the Network our CEO met with the CEO of Party and
    subsequently with a number of top people in their London offices. The talks were
    all about the present situation and future of rakeback and we were advising them
    on the ins and outs of the rakeback from a leading affiliate point of view.
    Obviously we had no idea what was about to happen with the split….!

    Following the split there was a mad rush by affiliates claiming they had
    “special” deals with Party to give rakeback to players. This was all complete
    lies. They were merely trying to scare people in to signing up with them to try
    and capitalise on any future deal that might occur.

    Since the split, our CEO has been in continuous touch with Party in order to
    establish what they were planning so far as an “Internal Rewards System” was
    concerned.

    We can tell you now that there is no general internal rewards system for
    rakeback players at Party Poker. There is simply a team of individuals who have
    been assigned to look at high volume players and reward them on a continuous
    basis whether they were previously rakeback players or not. In fact they
    actually just leave most players to approach VIP services themselves and ask for
    rewards. What determines high volume in Party’s eyes? Who knows but it’s
    probably worth anyone trying their luck once you have an account…after all, all
    they can say is “No!”

    Let’s be clear about one thing going forward
    PARTY POKER WILL NOT DO RAKEBACK EVER. NEVER. EVER EVER.
    It is against everything they believe in

    Party are clamping down hard.
    We have this from on high. Any affiliate who is caught issuing lots of
    individual trackers (so that they can get individual player breakdowns) will be
    flagged by the system and will be shut down.

    What about existing accounts which get rakeback?
    Well it looks like they may be grandfathered in and allowed to stand. But that
    could also change at some stage too (though this has not been intimated). But
    for now any player who has a rakeback account with us will continue to get
    rakeback. If we have issued you a code but you haven’t used it yet…you still can
    use it…but we will not issue anymore.

    So where does this leave those people who have no account at all yet?
    Well those of you who want can try and sign up with a less reputable affiliate
    for rakeback if you can find it and run the risk of never getting anything at
    some stage in the future.
    If Party shut down the affiliate, would party close your account? Almost
    certainly not.
    Those of you who don’t want to take the chance can consider joining the scheme
    we have outlined on our Party Page

    What about people who have existing accounts but without rakeback?
    This applies to a lot of you and hundreds of you have asked us for advice.
    Firstly Party will not reassign any player to a different affiliate so that is
    not an option. Many of you have suggested getting your partners/friends or
    family to sign up and use that account. Some have suggested closing your
    existing account and opening another (telling Party that you will not play there
    unless you can have a new account under an affiliate).
    Here is our stance on this. We will not comment or advise you on this subject.
    If there are ways of getting on to our proposed scheme you need to make your own
    decisions. We do not want you to tell us how you have done it. It is not of
    interest to us. We will not advise any player on this. We have a policy of good
    faith marketing in operation with Party and we will not compromise our
    relationship at all.

    #45506
    Illotus
    Participant

    Mitä tuossa nyyppänä äskettäin kyselin tarjousta Rakerebatereviewin foorumeilla, niin ReduceTheRake.com teki jonkunnäköisen tarjouksen, luotettavuudesta ei ole mitään hajua. Prosentti on välillä 25-30 riippuen MGR:stä.

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